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Sebastian 23: „Bei Angst werden Menschen dumm wie Leguane“

In Denkerpose: Sebastian 23 steht trotzdem zu seinen Dummheiten.

In Denkerpose: Sebastian 23 steht trotzdem zu seinen Dummheiten.

Foto: Henriette Becht

Bochum.  Nicht nur in der Corona-Krise setzt mal der Verstand aus. Ein Gespräch mit Philosoph und Poetry-Slammer Sebastian 23 über sein Buch zur Dummheit.

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