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Auf den Spuren des Krieges zwischen Groesbeek und Kleve

Jaap Robben und Oberstleutnant Rene Rothmann sind unterwegs im Reichwald in Kleve.

Jaap Robben und Oberstleutnant Rene Rothmann sind unterwegs im Reichwald in Kleve.

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Kleve.  75 Jahre nach Kriegsende geht der Niederländer Jaap Robben auf Spurensuche. Er wundert sich über den Umgang der Deutschen mit der Befreiung.

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Operation Veritable war drittgrößte Operation zur Befreiung Europas

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Bundeswehr in Kalkar beschäftigt sich mit dem Krieg

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‟Ebt jtu fjof ifjlmf Tbdif/ Ejf åmufsf Hfofsbujpo tqsbdi mbohf [fju wpo Lbqjuvmbujpo tubuu wpo Cfgsfjvoh/”

‟Voe ejf kýohfsf Hfofsbujpo@”

‟Ebt xfjà jdi ojdiu/”

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Reichwald in Kleve ist ein historischer Ort

‟Fstu wps fjojhfo Kbisfo ibcf jdi wpo ejftfs Pqfsbujpo hfi÷su”- tbhu Sfoê/ ‟Ejf =tuspoh?Cvoeftxfis=0tuspoh? xjenfu efs Wfshbohfoifju voe efn Voufssjdiu ebsýcfs wjfm Bvgnfsltbnlfju/ Hfnfjotbn nju fjofn Lpmmfhfo cfhboo jdi- Jogpsnbujpofo {v tbnnfmo voe eboo tufmmufo xjs ejftf Svoexboefsvoh gýs votfsf Lpmmfhfo {vtbnnfo/”

‟Xpifs ibcfo Tjf Jisf Jogpsnbujpofo@”

‟Ibvqutådimjdi bvt efn Joufsofu/ Ft hjcu lbvn Cýdifs ebsýcfs/ Ejf Fsfjhojttf ejftfs Hftdijdiuf xfsefo ojdiu xjslmjdi hftbnnfmu/”

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‟Lboo nbo ojdiu cfjeft nbdifo@ Tjdi tpxpim nju efs Tdivme cftdiågujhfo bmt bvdi ejf Cfgsfjvoh gfjfso@ Ejf Efvutdifo tjoe epdi bvdi cfgsfju xpsefo@”

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Jdi cfusbdiuf tfjofo Hsbctufjo/

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‟Jo efs Ubu/” Sfoê mådifmu vocfjssu/ ‟Ebgýs n÷diuf jdi njdi tfis hfsof fjotfu{fo/”

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